CT 10k top 8

[Zxqueb]

It's an interesting pool if you haven't seen it. I find it wierd that Charlie is listed by Wil as being an "unknown" player when he is 23rd in the world at my last check.

Anyway...
1st Place

Robert Hatch "Barag Barrage"
Clawclan Scout x2
Bloodthirsty Redcap
Scarab Warcharm x2
Stormwatch Siren
Basts Handmaid
Infernal Gothic
Bloodhawk Barag
Blademiller x2
Hunter-Killer x2
Noble Dragon
Pearlthorn Castle x2


2nd Place

Charles Baker "Hell's Wells"
Cannibal Pariah x2
Walking Worms
Unwishing Well x2
Infernal Screamer x2
Toxic Sludger
Crypt Worm x2
Infernal Preacher
Demonic Dandy
Clawclan Scout x2
Scarab Warcharm
Ekkyon Wayfarer


3-4th place

Jason Boim
Cannibal Pariah x2
Clawclan Scout
Bloodthirsty Redcap
Stormwatch Siren
Scarab Warcharm
Heartsblood Temple
Pearlthorn Castle
Infernal Gothic x2
Bloodhawk Barag
Blademiller
Voodoo Manipulator
Hunter-Killer
Dreadmorph Ogre
Unsated Ragedrake

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Nicolas Pilartz
Unsated Ragedrake x2
Lady of the Manor x2
Heartsblood Temple x2
Bloodhawk Barag
Boogeyman
Infernal Gothic
Scarab Warcharm x2
Pearlthorn Castle
Cannibal Pariah x2
Voodoo Manipulator
Stormwatch Siren


5-8th place


Maxime Charron Carrier
Cannibal Pariah
Lord Slobber
Heartsblood Temple
Bloodthirsty Redcap
Rainforest Shaman
Scarab Warcharm
Hazardin Grenadier
Infernal Gothic
Yazrael, Dreadfiend
Infernal Preacher
Infernal Screamer x2
Boogeyman
Crypt Worm x2
Axemorph Demon


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Jean-Sebastien Pruneau
Cannibal Pariah x2
Hive Pincer
Spine Bug
Omen Locust x3
Unwishing Well
Butcher
Night Queen
Ropestrung Scarecrow
Queen Chrysota
Voodoo Manipulator
Thunder Sultan
Toxic Sludger
Boogeyman
Droning Damselfly
Baxar the Soulstitcher



Michael Pozsgay
Clawclan Scout x2
Bloodthirsty Redcap
Scarab Warcharm x2
Stormwatch Siren
Basts Handmaid
Buzzclaw
Infernal Gothic
Bloodhawk Barag
Blademiller x2
Hunter-Killer x2
Noble Dragon
Pearlthorn Castle

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Brian Bachman "Viva la Heart Thief"
Unsated Ragedrake
World Eater
Baxar the Soulstitcher
Toxic Sludger
Bloodhawk Barag
Infernal Gothic
Heart Thief
Buzzclaw x2
Scarab Warcharm x2
Clawclan Scout
Zombie Enforcer
Heartsblood Temple
Cannibal Pariah
Rainforest Shaman

[warlord1985]

Names? Places? Nothing?

[Zxqueb]

Fine. Names and places. Now you supply the commentary.

[warlord1985]

Good job Charlie. Way to be an unstoppable machine. Ho much money did he win? d**n. The Chrystoa army is funny and is the only thing that is out of the ordinary. Seems like a pretty predicatble metagame.

[unclelumpy]

I see the Mire guy had no effect on the top 8, do you think we will start seeing him in the meta with all the well bands running around?

I faced some bands on Sunday that were trying to abuse the well and Sludger helped at times I suppose but he gets pushed and pulled away sometimes. Who is better Sludger or Mire SHadowy guy? I think I plan on sticking with the sludge.

[warlord1985]

I would really like to run the grenadier as it can get rid of the well easily. Also, maybe a Soulwash temple once sludger comes in for a seat.

[Zxqueb]

I don't think the meta was particularly predictable. We have: Two really wierd (to my eyes) hunter killer / movement armys running bast's handmaiden (why is that piece even in there?), Hellbred with wells, Temples x2, Mono fear hiveling, a more standard hellbred team and a team inbetween temple stuff and wierd bast build. Seems like everything but the kitchen sink. VERY much more open field than I had anticipated. I am somewhat surprised to see no mono or almost mono valor in there, however.

Z

[unclelumpy]

Was there any Snakes played at the 10K?

[pipgamer]

well according to rob hatch, basts handmaiden is in there for 3 reasons of a third warcharm, and I think he said that any 2 of the reasons alone wouldn't be enough to run the piece, but all 3 together give enough of a reason to run them.

-It fills a spawn gap
-Its harder to move with frightwave
-It has one extra di

Now I think the spiker team is only good in a predictable metagame where it can be tweaked for specific builds. So I think the spikers get benched for a while.

Now I think the grenadier is a bad answer to wells though, you'll be putting yourself behind 1 spawn from your opponent just using that piece and chances are you already lost a piece to the well or your opponent wouldn't have played it yet. Sad part is that its still a better answer than soulwash temple and it might be enough to stop the teams that are just focused around the wells.

[Zxqueb]

pipgamer said:

well according to rob hatch, basts handmaiden is in there for 3 reasons of a third warcharm, and I think he said that any 2 of the reasons alone wouldn't be enough to run the piece, but all 3 together give enough of a reason to run them.

-It fills a spawn gap
-Its harder to move with frightwave
-It has one extra die

Hmm. I think I'd still rather have a third charm.. Especially in a team with the highest power being 6. There is a ton more utility in a charm.

Now I think the grenadier is a bad answer to wells though, you'll be putting yourself behind 1 spawn from your opponent just using that piece and chances are you already lost a piece to the well or your opponent wouldn't have played it yet. Sad part is that its still a better answer than soulwash temple and it might be enough to stop the teams that are just focused around the wells.

If your opponent has well, you are likely to have lost a piece anyway. At least you won't lose a ton more high cost guys to the well. So you lose a 4 drop to take out a well (and probably score some good conquest points for the previous turn). Plus, in a band with appease, you can do some good setup as second player if your opponent clumps and they don't have well. He may have a place in some bands.