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Post by elite130 on May 1, 2006 9:37:48 GMT -5
tjpandv the HD FP army. It has a 11 IT at best unless you start to juggle around with formations. that is borderline to me. But it helps you can apply your damage where needed. I would suggest you might want to include some HD Palsuits. bawadding a bishop extends range and add reactive armor to my TTL's. As such I can dodge that longer ranged bullit a lot easier. Keep experimenting. Also a CT in a Bishop allows for a repairdop if needed. And a Bishop can hop over buildings in a pinch if Mechs start to close in on my TTL's Good luck testing. E130
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Post by baw on May 1, 2006 9:53:26 GMT -5
I concur an 11 IT is borderline. I will have to try playing it some. I could almost have a Liao Long tom for the price of a Transport and a HS TTL. I will indeed test it out some! The transport and protection is really nice. Not being able to pick up units with tokens does hurt the fire and flee option though!
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Post by tjpandv on May 2, 2006 3:38:41 GMT -5
Anyone have any experience of Dagmar and Esperanza? Taking the feedback from the HD build, I was looking to do the same for ROTS, only this time, using the FP and Esperanza to boost the AVs. A couple of builds are:
Esperanza+Lassonde+IT ROTS Bishop 3 x HiL TGRs 3 x ROTS ATVs 1 x ROTS Minigun ROTS FP (+1 to hit)
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Esperanza+Dagmar+IT ROTS Bishop 3 x HiL TGRs 3 x ROTS Miniguns ROTS FP (+1 to hit)
Both armies use the FP to give Esperanza a chance to fire at 13+IT. Dagmar is double the points over Lassonde but I was wondering if that roll for "awe" would make a difference in 450? (obviously the +1 in defence over Lassonde is also useful - especially if your victim has already taken damage). Hopefully I'll get to the Club this week to try them both out.
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Post by elite130 on May 2, 2006 7:39:33 GMT -5
Both are good armies however the CNC NC+TTL support will be a pain. 13 IT is great but is it worth the 15 points you are behind on VC2.
When is tarted testing 600 my conclusion was a FP isnt that a problem in 450 it is a bigger problem.
If you used a Ballistic Mech You might risk it but an Energy based Mech does not want to end up having to hunt down ATV's or lose on VC2.
Sofar I think the CNC NC +TTL is the strongest I have seen.
But I am a great believer in no FP or SA.
Regards E130
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Post by baw on May 2, 2006 7:40:03 GMT -5
My son played Esparanza with the Liao ATV's and ROTS/LIAO SA. That was a very good army. Dagmar is worth the points in my opinion (but then again I like defense) Taking an order away in 450 can be very devastating.
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